Okay, we're recording, uh, podcast with, uh, Dave and Jason, episode one. I tell you what, this is a long time coming, brother. It really is. And, and, and in a way I'm a little nervous. But in another way, I think this is gonna be a lot of fun because you know what? There are people out there that need to hear these stories, buddy.

We've got, every one of us has got a story inside of us, and mine is just chomping. Or is it champ? And I'm not sure if it's chomping at the bit. Id take it out. I think it's a chomp. I would imagine it's a chomp. What are we gonna call this thing, Jason? I don't know. I mean, we've kicked around a lot of different uh, uh, names.

We could be open to suggestions. I, I've already texted my, my 20 year old daughter, almost 21 year old daughter, and said, Hey, yeah, we we're open for some suggestions here. Maybe we open up. She might say some crazy stuff though. I, we don't want, what do we want from a 21 year old? We love her, but let's be honest, maybe we open it up to, uh, you know, our vast hoard of loyal listeners.

Aren't there some? I hope so. I think my wife would be one yours another. Well, if they don't listen, nobody's gonna listen. But the concept here, of course, is gonna be stories from our life. I mean, if I may be so bold, Dave, I. We're funny. Well, to me and you, we are, I mean, we could crack each other up all day long, all day long.

And if that's all that comes from this, that's fine. Um, I do think this will be something that probably could be archived in the national archives, things of that nature. We'll see. I don't know why they wouldn't. Well, you know, I don't know, maybe. Let's kind of push pause on the naming of the, uh, podcast.

Okay. Uh, anxious to get some thoughts though, but maybe just a little bit of background between you and I. Okay. Well let, yeah, let, the premise of this whole idea is, is that Jason and I both come from small towns. I, I would say small towns compared to other people throughout the world. You know, there are big, big cities out there, and Jason and I do not come from those cities.

My name is Dave Simmons and I come from a town called Providence, Utah. I grew up there from about 1970s. Seven ish until 19 years old when I moved out. And, you know, there's a lot of stories between that then and, uh, when I moved out and even afterwards, yes, we're gonna get, we're gonna get into those. But just for a little bit of research, I, I, I looked up when province was established in 1859, um, by some l d s immigrants.

And there were, you know, obviously just a handful of people. But in 1970, which is when I'm starting to come around, not quiet, I was, I was born in 75, there were 1600 people. Roundabout in 1970 in Providence in 1980, where I'm flourishing as a five-year-old in Providence, where there's about 2,600 people, 1990, which is my formative years.

There's about 3,300 people. And uh, and that's really the time where I was in Providence. And Providence is a, is a great little town. You, you, obviously not many people, but for us as as kids growing up, it was awesome. I mean, the type of place where. David Webb and I would ride our big wheels up to the neighbor's yard and well, they had a steep driveway there.

You could go down and we'd put tube socks on our hands and pretend we were chips patrol. See, Dave was blonde and he got to be John, which obviously makes me punch. I don't know why I'd have to be punch. I, I'm, I mean, redhead. You don't really, Dave, you don't, you don't know. Well, all I know, all I know is I'm redhead with freckles.

Might as well be pon seems, right? Poncherelli, the, the, the indomitable air Estrada, why would I not be pon? But we would cruise those big wheels down the, down the hill from the neighbors and you know, we're in the middle of the road. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But you know, there's not a ton of cars going around in front of our houses.

But there could have been, I mean, now as a grown man with children, I'm thinking. Why on earth were we cruising down the middle of the road? And those, those big wheels had an emergency break of sorts where you could lock those back tires and we'd hit the gravel and we would just spin on those things with the tube socks on.

And now mind you, I'm not cutting out finger holes in the tube socks. So basically what I got is little white nubs holding onto these handlebars trying to fly down these hills and. And there was a corner, we were coming to a corner where somebody could have been coming around. And that's all of Little Dave and Little Dave.

We were both Dave, so we went by our last names Webbon Simmons. So that was, it was quite the times. That makes sense, and I like that. Now, Dave, I want to, we probably should tell our loyal listeners that I don't really know if we have any many fact checkers, uh, listening, but I do wanna go back to just one little thing.

Tell me the population of Providence. When I was there, it was probably right around 3,500 people. Okay, that's fair. But it has grown substantially right now, Providence, even in 2019, the estimate by way of Wikipedia, which we all know Wikipedia is a hundred percent accurate, right? If it's on the internet.

It's true. Of course, of, of, of course it is. The estimate was almost 7,800 people in 2019 and it, you know, obviously has grown substantially. But, um, not when I was there, it was a lot smaller. There was, there was lots of fun things for a little kid to do. You said 2,600 though. Is that right? Or maybe I need to listen a little bit better.

Maybe just listen a little better next time. Okay. Sorry about that. It, it was 30, 3300 in nineteen ninety twenty, twenty six hundred and nineteen eighty. So let's go right around in the middle of that somewhere. 2,800 is, is the town that you grow up in, and obviously for many of our listeners, That's a small town.

You would think so. You would think so. Now a lot of the people that are gonna listen to this are probably our friends. Yeah, I hope so. I've got a few And they're going to be in the same boat. And your names might come up close. 'cause Jason, I'm thinking I wanna name names. Oh, of course. Listen, first of all, we're not gonna get permission from anybody before we name those names.

No. And, and, and if we've messed it up. Sorry. That's what I remember. That's how I remember it. And, And we're the ones telling the story. That's right. If you want to tell a story differently, you can tell it to your own friends. Exactly. Get your own podcast. Or maybe, maybe you could be a guest on ours, but I just, I do need to kind of bounce back a little bit, Dave, to those population numbers.

So again, so you're growing up Providence, Utah. It's beautiful, it's rural. I. Bedroom community of Logan, if you will. Uh, I would like to think so. Yes, I think so. Nice bedroom. If I, if I may, uh, 2800, 2600, 3000 people right in there. But I grew up in a town and I have to be careful. Town is probably a misnomer.

A country town, well, here it is, grouse Creek. It's not even a town. It's not a town. If, again, on Wikipedia. It's an area at best, at best. Um, and again, my stats come from Wikipedia. There wasn't a lot of census takers out there when I was growing up, but again, I was, uh, born and raised in Grouse Creek and I need to get this right out of the way in the front.

When I start telling a story. It's gonna be Grouse Creek. I can't help it. You try to help it. I could try and help it and maybe, maybe I will, but, um, Grouse Creek I, when I get going, I just can't help it. But the population, mid eighties when I was there was about a hundred. Now, when I say about a hundred, I'm not saying about a hundred thousand.

No, no. I'm talking like 1 0, 0 0, like 100 people. And Dave, in the spirit of full disclosure, I am rounding up Jason. I've been there one time and I went there with you. You're better off 'cause of it. Well, Yeah, but that dirt road is long. I mean, nobody drives a dirt road. Well, how long? How? How long is that dirt road?

Listen, if you're gonna get to Grouse Creek, see, there it is. And I paused 'cause I thought about Sand Creek, but it didn't feel right. If you're gonna get to Grouse Creek, the only way to get there is at a very minimum, 20 miles on a dirt road. You gotta have an SS u V. Well, come on Dave. I I, I mean, it's a good dirt road.

I guess there's such a thing. I'm assuming the people from Grass Creek, it's Creek. Oh, I mean, but you from, I don't know, do you want me to start saying Creek? I would prefer, well, I don't, I'm not the boss of you, but I'm Creek rolls off the tongue a little bit better and as we start telling stories. Of our growing up, I think you're gonna agree with me that crick fits a little better.

It's spelled, spelled c r e e k. There are two E's in there. Um, that's not Jiminy Cricket. It's not c r i c k. Yeah. Jimy Cricket. That doesn't even sound right. No, it really doesn't. But when I drove that dirt road, I thought, wow, this, you know, it's a dirt road. It's gonna be done here in just a few minutes.

It felt, it felt forever, forever. So it's two and a half hours from where we are sitting right now. And again, about 150 miles due west in the last 20 of course is all dirt. So I, I couldn't help but make a little note here. You and, uh, Dave Webb cruising with your big wheels. I assume when you came outta your driveway you were on paved roads.

Yes. Paved roads, yes. Which seemed, tell the sewer and that was trouble for a little while. But, but, but now, yeah, they're paved. They were paid. I'm sorry. All these, all I, I just wanna go down all these tangents because we've got stories about sewers and the lack thereof. We, we may even get to that today, but yeah, so I'm growing up in a town of 100 people, if I'm being honest.

It was probably closer to 80. Mm-hmm. Two room schoolhouse, K through nine, little room K through four, big room five through nine. Well, you can't have the forts and the fifths together. That's, oh no. Gosh. It's just, that's trouble almost seems. The fourths haven't even had the maturation, the maturation class yet.

By fifth grade, I was basically a man. Yeah, you were deodorant everything at that point. Ah, doing the best that I could. Well, you did have a mustache by fi by fifth grade did. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. I wish we could show pictures on these podcasts. Well, one of these days we might graduate into YouTube, but some of your pictures.

I think you were born a different nationality than you are now. That's not a far stretch. No. Um, I dunno how you switch. I dunno how you switch either, but I am just in spirit. Again, full disclosure, I am one quarter Belgian, but I don't think that has anything to do with my prepubescent mustache. Yeah. How do you pull that one off?

But you look darn good in that mustache. I did. I did mustache with a bit of a mullet. Yeah. Well, was there any other style in Grass Creek? No. No. Thank you Dave. You, it starting to come a little bit better for you. You're welcome. But again, so I mean, we're talking small town, so when Dave says small town providence, you know, 2,600 people, that's a metropolis.

Yeah, that's enormous. My goodness. I don't even, I work with numbers, uh, for a living, ladies and gentlemen, but like, I like to say, I'm not great with numbers, but can I manage your money? Um, so I don't know how many times bigger providence is was than Grass Creek. A lot. And here's the thing, Jason, the cemetery.

In Grouse Creek. Mm-hmm. There's no grass. No. Why would you want grass in a cemetery? I don't. Well, it's everything I've always seen. I think basically headstones are two popsicle sticks taped together in the, in the shape of a cross there. There's Uncle Alden. Yeah. We wrote his name on the popsicle sticks with a Sharpie.

Absolutely. Which had to be shipped in, by the way, by the Pony Express. I used the Woodburn kit. I used the Woodburn kit to get those, those Sharpies. We haven't had Sharpes and Grouse Creek in 20 years. Well, you have to have 'em shipped in. We did, but it's a very different, I mean, again, I hope we're trying to paint the picture a little bit here.

20 miles on a dirt road. My home, if you will, was three and a half miles to the south of the center, if I may, of Grouse Creek. Now, of course, the Center Bean, I. The store and the post office. And the school. And the church. Well, you can get a, you can get a pop and get a soap pop. Yeah. Back in the day, you could get a pop and a candy bar for less than a dollar.

Oh, man. Those are the days. You must have been a big child then. You could've been. If I, if it was a dollar for a soda Pap and a candy bar, I'd be enormous. I had my fair share of the sodas. Let's just be honest. But in the spirit, I mean, In order to get that popping candy bar, I'm riding three. I mean, you're on your big mills.

I am three and a half miles on my huffy, my B M X bike. Huffy. That's a good bike. That's beautiful. It was blue and yellow. And I tell you what I, I mean I wasn't much into the tricks, but I was crushing it basically on a gravel road. Mine was an orange team. Murray good bike, wrecked it pretty hard Last day of the kindergarten, my dad had spruce it up for me.

I'm like, dad, can I ride my bike to school for the last day of kindergarten? I mean, it's a downhill, I mean it, it is. It's a hill rollercoaster type stuff. Stuff that drops your stomach out when you go down. Oh boy. Yeah. It's, it's a hill. Oh man. Well, maybe that's a story for another podcast, but, uh, I, I launched off of that thing.

Yeah. I was upside down at a certain point. I do, I think we definitely need to get into, um, basically modes of transportation from early on in our lives to where we are now. But, uh, to back up obviously how Dave and I became friends. We live in the same town now. Millville Millville by my standards, it's huge.

Millville is adjacent to Providence, so I didn't go very far. Mm-hmm. I grew up in Providence and, and my parents still live less than a mile away from where I live now. And Jason and I met in this little town of Millville. Yeah. And here we are. And the crazy thing is Dave is, uh, we've known each other for.

Gosh, 15, 16 years now. It seems a long time. It's been that long. It's been a while, brother. And as we would talk, I would, as friends do, we'd talk about stories about growing up and things of that nature and, and I remember I'd tell stories and, um, my eyes would get huge. Yeah. I'm like, this is just a story.

This is obviously normal. Show a little respect for my childhood stories. I don't wanna spoil any of your stories. Well, we're gonna get into that. I do need to add one more thing though. Dave and I, I realize I'm all over the place here, but like Dave mentioned, he's been to Grouse Trick once, but only once and before that time, I mean, we'd known each other for years before that.

Mm-hmm. Uh, he didn't believe that grassroots existed. Yeah. And I'm not sure you didn't stage that whole thing when I went out there that day too. Well, I mean, the links that you'll go to, well, listen, it's near and dear to my heart, you know, so I'm gonna tell you, but. If I could just share one story about kind of illustrating growing up in a small town and, and again, a small country town, uh, I feel like we need to, we bounced this off the other day, like Dave's Country Mouse, and I'm like, country ear mouse.

Yeah, if you will, and City Mouse, get out of here. Um, but growing up we didn't have like a Grouse Creek municipal sewer system. I mean, there's 100 people again, 80. So I don't think there's much meat. Make sure everything is downhill. Everything is downhill. That's right. And it runs downhill, bro. So most people had what you'd call septic tank.

Mm-hmm. Which is not unusual. We have septic tank in Millville. No, that's, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean it's, I kind of like, and I don't really wanna go into the nuts and bolts of it, but like, whatever you put in the toilet and you hit the flush going in the septic, it's going in the septic tank. Mm-hmm. It seems like a good place.

Yeah. Whatever happens back there. I don't, I don't wanna get into that, but, um, no. But a few of us, uh, of course, uh, myself included, we didn't obviously have a sewer system. We didn't have a septic tank. We had what was known as a cesspool. I mean, you don't really have to say much more when somebody's cesspool.

It's like a cesspool. It's disgusting. It is kind of disgusting. I. Um, I'll date myself here, but if I was referencing a classic movie from the 1980s Labyrinth, I don't know if you're familiar, Dave? Mm-hmm. David Bowie a fantastic movie. Check it out. I wonder if we can get paid when we drop names like that.

Well, you think we should? I would hope so anyways. There's just a, a scene in the movie where it's like, in the pits of eternal stench. Okay. And picture that in your mind. That's what a CES was like. I'm gonna close my eyes and think about that. Picture it. Oh, that's gross. It's really gross. When, when the cesspool was first created, when, when the double wide, uh, was pulled in.

Again, my home of. Many, many years do they come as two separate wides. You better believe like you go single, single, and then at a certain point you duct tape 'em together that's close. Uh, definitely come in two pieces and then they just stitch 'em together basically with a, in my mind, like a big needle and thread.

It's a big needle. It is a big needle and it's a beautiful double wide trailer. Pulled it there in 1972. Okay. Mom and dad. And, uh, we had no time for a septic tank, so we just dug a hole. Of course you did. Downwind, Uhhuh downwind. And you know, at one point, I think the very beginning, we probably had some railroad ties kind of cover 'em overtime.

Yeah. Wait, don't I have to look at this? Let's put railroad tide over. You don't wanna fall in. Well, no, no. Again, all these tangents, we're gonna talk about the septic tank. Super smart though about going down wind from that thing. Oh yeah. And I'm here to tell you that was the best place. Like the weeds would just grow beautifully.

Oh, I would imagine around that natural fertilizer and perhaps maybe even a flower here and then, but I'm, I'm digressing where the red fern grew, right? You got Big D, little Ann out by sense Pool. Yeah. They're just right next door. That's the funnest thing I ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I digress. Go ahead, ahead.

Why don't you talk, talk about your poo pool. Yeah. Listen, that went south in a hurry. Yeah, it did. But, uh, long story short, uh, you're like, please wrap it up, Jason. Uh, Cesspool. So you flush the toilet. There's just like a hole in the ground and a, and a pipe that comes out and empties into the cesspool. And again, you know, nobody's gonna get close to that because of the obvious reason.

Yeah. But it was in the eighties. Uh, we had a bit of a, of a plumbing problem in the double wide because you got a cesspool. But that's okay. But yeah, another, another point here, but, uh, I mean, we'd flush, we'd flush toilets. Were backing up. Tubs backing up, sinks, backing up. My mom is just pulling her hair out.

And so my dad, he was a very, my dad was the smartest man I knew. I mean, he could do whatever. He could do more with, you know, toothpick and a piece of bubble gumm than most men. So he had this idea, now I need to give him some disclosure. Now he's no longer with us. So I'm, I'm not speaking poorly of the deceased, but I don't think my dad thought this idea would work.

But he was a creative man and he knew how to have a lot of fun. So my sister, Lisa and I, we were in watching Pete's Dragon on wonderful world of Disney. The detail is important because again, this is the eighties. There is no D V R. We didn't even have a V C R. So when Wonderful World of Disney, Pete's Dragon is on, on a Sunday night, you're watching it.

You're watching. 'cause you can't pause it. All you can do is try to memorize it and share it with Lisa later. Absolutely. And sing it in my head. Yeah. So dad pops his head in the door and he says, Hey guys, come out here, we wanna see this. We're like, dad, can we wait till commercial? He is like, well, it's pretty cool and I'm ready.

So come out. So we went out there. There's an old flatbed truck hadn't ran in years. He says to me and my sister Lisa, he says, crawl underneath there. And leave some space for me. I'm like, dad, I don't, it doesn't seem like if this is a game of hide and seek, it's not going the right way in the first place.

No. And if it's, if we're playing hide and seek, it's pointless because you lost. He knows where we all are. Yeah. Well, we just do what we're told. We crawl underneath there. Unbeknownst to me, dad had some dynamite that. It was just always to spare. Well, yeah, to spare dynamite. I mean, we kept it in the, in the storage shed and it was always just there in the corner.

I can still see it to this day. Um, it was starting to get dangerous. I think my mom wanted him to get rid of it. Well, half second pause here. Yeah, please. Your dad was a smoker, right? He was, yeah. Alright. You can carry on. That's a good point. That's a good point. You probably shouldn't keep dynamite in the corner.

You should, but I mean, it was, it was a good a hundred feet from the house, so it's fine. I mean, sure. I can still see them. Just move the house later. Yeah. Kind of leaching another story, uh, leaching from it. So my dad took that dynamite and he actually nestled it right next to the pipe that filled the spy tank.

Can you, can you picture that in your mind? I can, and this is going a terrible direction. It is, it is. And it, but it was awesome. So my dad, he does that. He, um, puts the, uh, dynamite right next to the cesspool. There's just a few, probably railroad ties for the moment, but not gonna be many left after this, he runs the wire over to the truck where he's got his, uh, basically detonator, if you will set up.

He touches it off Volcano, OHCA, at least Buddy, you've heard the phrase, uh, raining cats and dogs. It was not raining cats and, and dogs. No, it was raining big Glocks. You would probably appreciate cats and dogs raining at that point. I wish I would because all of a sudden I'm looking up in the there and I'm like, I, that looks familiar.

Could've sworn I chewed that corn. Like did I just flush that 10 minutes ago? It's the weirdest thing. Anyways, and I'm glad we're underneath the flatbed truck because just again, we need, we're gonna have to bring a sound guy in because it was like, But my dad, he also, uh, and I'm not making light Vietnam vet, so he could, like, he dived, dove, whatever.

Potato. Potato. Yeah. Um, anyways, uh, you know, he dove under the truck. Uh, it was the coolest thing I ever saw. Now, I don't think my dad thought that was gonna work. Did you wear goggles? No heavens no. Mm-hmm. Goggles. I mean, I don't mean to be too dramatic here. And again, we'll probably get some mad calls about this.

Goggles are for wimps. Oh, okay. Goggles and gloves. Who needs 'em? Who needs stuff like that? I'm just kidding to strike that from the record. Um, did it fix the toilet? Absolutely not. Was it a memory and awesome. That has been burned into my mind. For years. Absolutely. Your dad sounds like an awesome dude. Oh gosh.

One of the best. One of the best. Did he teach you any of those skills or did he just figure it was just too much? You were beyond teaching? Yes, he definitely taught me a lot of skills, but as it relates to explosives and dynamite, I'm not as well versed as I wish I was. I don't know. You're gonna run into some the need for explosives in dynamite anytime soon.

Well, I've never seen any dynamite. Since that day. Well, do you know what's funny about the dynamite story? Me and David Webb were just exploring behind his house one day and there was a kind of an empty vacant area. Mm-hmm. This is going back in my little brain. There was a stick of dynamite and we, we took it to, I dunno if we picked it up or took it there, but we brought an adult and they're like, oh.

And they called the authorities and, oh, really? Had to have it removed. Probably took it to your dad's garage. I was like, who would be the authorities? Like, you don't deal with that yourself, but again, I, this could be remembering it completely. Inaccurately. But the bottom line is, is we found dynamite and it was removed, and I'm sure it ended up in your dad's garage.

I'm sure it probably did a garage. Did you have a garage on a double wide trailer? Oh no, no, no. Garage. And if people did have a garage, you didn't put cars in it. That was for storage. Well that makes sense. My next door neighbor, his name was Ken Kilkenny. Okay. I Ken, kill Ken. I wanna know more about him already.

Well, Ken k Kenny had a garage and there were no cars in that thing. But you wouldn't believe. The storage of tools that man had in there. First of all, yeah. I ask if your dad taught you some of that, because my dad is the greatest guy ever. Also there is, and I know him. I love Mark, to know to love him.

I've said a thousand times, but, but my dad didn't teach me anything when it came to that sort of stuff. Oh, here, here's what happened. Yeah. Okay. Please. I, I'm anxious. I, in, I'm in sixth grade. Mm-hmm. Okay. I, I'm in Mr. McCammon shop class. We're, you know, we're building, I think it was a toolbox for the tools that I wasn't ever gonna have.

Yeah. I mean, it makes no sense for me to have a toolbox. Mr. McCammon used to call everybody Jack. He's like, Jack, looking at me, Jack, go over and get me a Philip screwdriver. Could he just not like, was he bad with names? He probably didn't care. Exactly. I don't know. I don't know how long, I don't know how long Mr.

McCammon had been teaching at that point, but to me he was. He was rough and he wasn't gonna learn your name. Yeah. Didn't seem appropriate. So anyways, he says, Jack, go over there and get me our Philip screwdriver. So I walk over to the wall, which, and anybody that had a shop class now you wouldn't, 'cause I mean, well come on.

I mean it was no, I mean it was, it was go outside and hit some rocks together and see what you can get. Make fire. Yeah, make fire. So I go over to the peg wall, which is where all the tools were and you know, and they were, oh yeah, they were all up there. You could go and pick them up. I can picture mine.

Yeah. So I'm looking at this wall. I'm this little sixth grader looking at this wall, and I'm like, geez, I don't have any idea what a Philip screwdriver is. So I'm just looking for labels. That makes sense. You know, and so I'm dumbfounded. I, I'm like, I have no idea. So I go back to him, I'm like, you know, There are no Philip, they all say Stanley on him.

He looks at me like he had just been punched in the mouth and that there has been no dumber kid out there. And, and at this point you're sixth grade, you're thinking, what, what is? So, so anyways, fast forward to that evening. I walk home, I go home, I make. Dad, you've gotta tell me what these, what a Phillips screwdriver is.

That's not on me, right, Jason? No, I mean, that's on him. It's on, that's for sure. On mark. Right? That is on him. So, so then fast forward even further, I'm in the hospital. Our second child was a boy. He is in. I don't need to go through the miracle of birth, but he has just emerged. I can picture it in my mind.

And it's breathtaking. It's breathtaking. Clark, he has just emerged. He's now in the little weighing thing, you know where they put the baby in a Sure. He's goed up and he is laying in that thing. Yes. And it's the thing to weigh him. And I put my finger in there, he grabs onto my finger and I said, buddy. A Philip Screwdriver has the little cross at the top.

Don't ever forget it, because it's not gonna be on me. My kids don't know what Philip Screwdriver is. No, it's not right. It doesn't seem right and it wasn't right. But you know, for, for all the things that my dad didn't teach me, he did teach me a lot of, a lot of great things. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I think we're gonna get into a lot of those great things.

I mean, we've talked for a long time, I think, well, I'm sure we both would like to make sure people understand. This this's gonna be a lot of fun topics. Oh, worry. We're gonna be talking about childhood animals. Mm-hmm. Uh, or animals in general. I really need to pick the, is it pick the bone? Is it to pick the brain?

Pick a bone. I've a bone. I'm gonna pick, pick with you. I gotta pick a bone with all the hunters out there. Oh, you got a bone to pick all hunters. Yeah, that's what it iss. That's stuff, that's what it is. It doesn't seem a lot better. And, and we live in an area where a very high percentage of people are hunters.

Oh, for sure. I'm not gonna mock 'em by any means. No. A they've got guns, but I got questions. They got guns. Yeah, they got guns. They don't turn 'em sideways to shoot unless the deer's real aggressive. Yeah, well my neighbor Barfa, that guy hunts and he'll hunt everything and he'll go anywhere. But I always think it's a little bit, just not really fair when you've got the Hubble telescope on top of your gun as a scope, you pick that thing off from miles away.

There was no chase. Yeah. We're gonna get into stuff like that. Where's the skill? I mean, bar's knocking at your door. Yeah. Get running. But, but Barfa has taught me a lot of things about tools too. So, I mean, yeah. Well, let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up and uh, parting words of wisdom, Dave. I mean, as people know for the last half hour, I don't know that I have any wisdom and I don't have very many skills, but I think you're gonna learn that we're gonna have a good time as we move forward.

So thanks for being with us.